You don’t get to. Next question.


HuffPo:

Free Speech or Hate Speech? Where do we draw the line?

The article linked above was written by a Berkeley student and describes the tension at UC Berkeley over Milo Yiannopolous and Ann Coulter being invited to speak.

From my perspective, inviting Coulter, who openly opposes gay marriage, abortion rights, and amnesty for immigrants, to a campus that is home to a large queer community and a large undocumented/immigrant community is intentionally welcoming hate into their home. The university accepted these students and it is the job of the university to make them feel safe while on campus.

So, Milo and Ann are gonna make folks feel unsafe?  Really?

There was a tortured sentence at the end — really I felt badly for the words involved. But it ended with this clear statement of jello:

…the right to protest must be held in as high esteem as the right to free speech. Both sides were more comfortable with the idea of ‘offensive’ free speech only if those who were in protest were allowed to be present.

Um. This happened at Berkeley:

Image result for berkeley milo riots

This country produces such dunderheads, who I hope someday will grow up to understand that the culture really is dynamic and changing. Things will be a surprise, or a shock. Ideas will appear before you which are unpleasant.  You might be scared. I hope you’d be scared that you’re wrong. Fear like that is just your brain telling you that there is a huge other world — and most of it does not have safe spaces.

The college professor who taught this youngster that free speech means only “speech that does not make anyone feel unsafe,” is doing her no favors.

Trust me. Speech will make you feel unsafe, and Ann Coulter and Milo Yiannopolis should be the least of your fears. By the way, UC Berkeley has changed its mind and Ben Shapiro is coming to campus. (Link) 

I hope it actually happens, but I suspect there will be riots, protests and more destruction.  They will be protesting “hate speech” by throwing Molotov cocktails. I’ll put money on it right now.

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So, where is the line?

The law says we draw the line at speech that incites violence. Speech that promotes specific violent acts is always wrong.

Speech that hurts the feelings of college students should never be silenced.  In fact, that’s exactly the stuff that should be examined by an open minded college community.

 

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10 Responses to You don’t get to. Next question.

  1. My biggest problem, aside from the attempt to censor, with claims of feeling “unsafe” is that they are lies. They don’t feel unsafe. They feel angry. They’re angry that other people don’t share their foolish notions. They’ve been taught to describe that as feeling unsafe in a cynical effort to invoke Title IX protection.

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    • gmhowell says:

      Considering how leftists behave when angry, they ARE unsafe: to everyone around them.

      On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 8:11 AM Dave Alexander & Company with David Edgren and Gus Bailey – The Artisan Craft Blog wrote:

      > AJ Fornicarius Hoc commented: “My biggest problem, aside from the attempt > to censor, with claims of feeling “unsafe” is that they are lies. They > don’t feel unsafe. They feel angry. They’re angry that other people don’t > share their foolish notions. They’ve been taught to describe that a” >

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      • Rain says:

        Indeed, and like all good leftists rather than accept the responsibility for their own actions, they blame others for causing them to act this way…
        Gee, who does that remind you of?

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      • onwyrdsdream says:

        They’ve also been trained that there is no punishment. I blame Skinner and his focus on positive and negative reinforcement over positive punishment. People need to be aware that their actions can not only lose them what they like, but gain them what they hate to make rational decisions.

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  2. Rain says:

    Anyone who has such poor control over their own emotional response to someone else’s words, so poor that should they hear anything that they disagree with would cause them to react in a violent destructive manner, has no business wasting either their parents money or the States money on “higher education”.

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  3. onwyrdsdream says:

    “Coulter, who openly opposes gay marriage, abortion rights, and amnesty for immigrants…”

    I don’t remember her having a position on gay marriage. Not that what is being said is untrue, I just never saw her write about it. I do remember that she went to a gay event at a conservative conference, so even if she isn’t pro gay marriage, she doesn’t dislike gay people themselves.

    There is nothing wrong with opposing abortion rights. Perhaps you disagree, but opposition to the intentional killing of the unborn shouldn’t be controversial. Advocating to do so should be the more controversial position, if anything.

    The reason that it is called amnesty us because the very first act of theirs in our country is breaking our laws. Changing our laws is a different argument, but that she opposes letting people off for breaking the law? Not controversial.

    So basically. Whatever her position on gay marriage, she has no problem with gays themselves, she opposes killing babies and forgiving lawbreakers. Leaving aside Coulter, you’d be hard pressed to find any conservative who didn’t have around 2 of those opinions. More or less all of them are held by a demographically significant portion of the population. And, as if a demonstration of which side has the right of it, the people holding those opinions aren’t the ones setting things on fire, breaking windows, and running rampant. An unruly mob of lawbreakers are not justice.

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    • Toastrider says:

      “The reason that it is called amnesty us because the very first act of theirs in our country is breaking our laws. Changing our laws is a different argument, but that she opposes letting people off for breaking the law? Not controversial.”

      And because Coulter, unlike most leftists, has a memory span greater than that of a goldfish. She remembers back in the 80’s, when Reagan attempted to parlay with the Congressional Democrats as part of his campaign against the Soviet Union. One of the things he allowed for was a general amnesty for illegal immigrants, not to be repeated — a one time deal.

      Well, here we are thirty years later. What have we learned, kids?

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  4. Let me see if I understand this:

    An individual applies to a college, meets the admissions requirement, and now the university is obligated to “keep them safe” from offensive speech. Does this include other students who met the academic requirements, got accepted, and who may or may not share the same views as Ann Coulter? Last I heard, Milo Yiannopolis was gay and he happens to be conservative.

    Imagine going to a company and applying for a job. If the company accepts you, that company now has an obligation to keep you safe from offensive speech? What happens if you’re on a project and a team member comes in with a red ‘Make America Great’ pin on his lapel? Suppose he is the strongest member of the team. Do the other team members get to run to a safe space (or conference room) and complain about the lapel pin?

    These kids are in for a world of hurt once they get out into the big world.

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    • Toastrider says:

      The predictions I’m hearing is that these snowflakes will try to gravitate to positions where they can essentially call the shots about such problems; HR departments at the like.

      This will work until someone higher up the food chain gets irritated with them.

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  5. To be fair, most of the violence is from off-campus agitators. But that doesn’t mean that they aren’t being cheered on and being aided and abetted by being allowed to melt into crowds of students that help hide them from police.

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