Shhh! It’s Clandestine! It’s a Secret!


NBC:

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The Obama administration is contemplating an unprecedented cyber covert action against Russia in retaliation for alleged Russian interference in the American presidential election, U.S. intelligence officials told NBC News.

Current and former officials with direct knowledge of the situation say the CIA has been asked to deliver options to the White House for a wide-ranging “clandestine” cyber operation designed to harass and “embarrass” the Kremlin leadership.

The sources did not elaborate on the exact measures the CIA was considering, but said the agency had already begun opening cyber doors, selecting targets and making other preparations for an operation. Former intelligence officers told NBC News that the agency had gathered reams of documents that could expose unsavory tactics by Russian President Vladimir Putin.

I for one am very glad that we’re taking the Russian cyber threat seriously by contemplating secret attacks which are described on NBC News.

I was wondering if anybody heard about Seal Team 6 dropping in on Turkey next weekend?  I saw a report on CBS, but can’t find it online.  

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7 thoughts on “Shhh! It’s Clandestine! It’s a Secret!

  1. librarygryffon

    Didn’t Saddam consider CNN to be one of his best intelligence assets?

    When my husband’s boat came home from an extended Med Run in ’01 he couldn’t tell me what they’d been doing, though it was a pretty good guess from the battle flag with all the Tomahawks on it. About a year later the Navy declassified it since it had been all over CNN, essentially real time, which boats, both US and Brit, were firing on Afghanistan on 10/7. It’s not like the enemy hadn’t already figured it out.

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  2. onwyrdsdream

    alternately, one of the two people running for president bragged about resetting our relationship with Russia. In complex systems there is rarely a “zero” reset state. When you hit the reset button on your computer, it generally won’t behave in an entirely new fashion, if you did something that required you to press the reset button, odds are if you do the same thing again, you’ll once again need that button. Rather, if it’s unstable enough you need to reset it, there are probably nearly infinite interactions that can lead to that need. Resetting doesn’t solve many problems, at best, it resolves symptoms. Perhaps it was her intention to reset how we treated Russia. But I doubt Russia was on the same page on the whole resetting thing.

    With human relations, resetting isn’t really possible. Humans don’t work that way, and their memories don’t either. If you’re forgiven for infidelity, that doesn’t make it go away, it remains red in the ledger that will always be red. But in the ledger of relationships, the value of all the entries is not constant and can change. For this reason, forgiven sins can end relationships. It isn’t because they weren’t really forgiven, but rather because when the value of things was reassessed, the value of the relationship as a whole went negative.

    For Russia and the US, we have a lot of history.. mutual fears, rivalries, resentments. We each spent fortunes on military power greater than the whole rest of the world combined to array against each other. There is no way that there could be such a thing as a reset button with a nation we ground against for 80 years. If your operated as though such a thing were possible, you can be assured that mistakes would be made, and the ledger would be reassessed. With divorce, one of the parties is often surprised, while the other pretty much saw it coming for years. I can’t really imagine that the State department under Hillary was far seeing and Oracle like. Well, there is a lot of evidence that they didn’t have much of an idea what anyone else was thinking or doing, but wanted a hand in all of it anyway. Leading to this… mess.

    It isn’t that I expect Russia to act restrained and with decorum. Rather, I never expected that in the first place. It is just that I’d rather like to think there was someone in the State Department which also thought, you know, they still see us a bit more like an adversary and a bit less like an ally than well… just about anyone else on the planet. Hmm. But then we have us giving Russia a button labeled reset which they most likely mocked openly when they received it.

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    1. librarygryffon

      It didn’t help that it really said “overload”. Which I suppose you could say she’s done to the slowly thawing relationship if it’s started to freeze again so thoroughly and so quickly.

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      1. onwyrdsdream

        The state department sits on top of assets greater than any nation controlled prior to the 1800s, with experts of every sort, and people who can speak 3/4s of the world’s languages, so naturally when translating something with diplomatic implications with a nation which had been our greatest enemy for around 80 years until recently, for which we both built civilization ending levels of nuclear armaments aimed at each other, obviously you rely on an intern and Google translate.

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      2. librarygryffon

        Yep.

        I honestly can’t imagine why people thing HRC is the smartest and best candidate for the presidency ever, and how she was so fantastic as an SoS that we just have to have her at the helm. The First Woman president really needs to be someone who has a clue.

        But enough current politics. I think I’m going to spend what computer time today I do have mostly playing stupid games and looking at cute kitty memes. Sometimes you just have to take a break. 🙂

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